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I always thought it would be a facinating conversation between you and Thomas but I wondered whether the contrasting opinions on Crowley would be too much of an obstacle. So glad to see it finally made it to reality. Fwiw, I've been following Thomas's videos for years and he's a fookin ledg.

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Brilliant chat, you guys. I loved it. Two of my favorite thinkers and podcasters. Looking forward to the next one.

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Thank you both. Dark stuff all the same...:-(

(Meant to say, how lovely to hear of the kid/goatling - last interview. Had been wondering if your pregnant goat had given birth.

Hope all went well, was fruitful, re your UK visit).

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Off topic JaHo but good to see you've resolved your differences with James and are scheduled to appear on Hermitix soon.

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Fascinating discussion.

I did smile at the 'reasonable' logic of suggesting that, since the inhumanity we are seeing brought clearly into focus around what likely was a miscalculated viral overstep on the part of the 'organisers', is just that: inhuman origins of a yet to be determined 'type'. So, is part of the psyop being orchestrated by something inhuman in such as way that humans go into stockholm syndrome and destroy each other?

(or i heard the other day about the theory that neanderthal man is 'human' and peaceful in the best new-age way and that our inhumanity actually comes from the 'homo-sapiens' as brutal beasts! so many doors to choose from. time to use coins, tarot cards, or the i ching as 'rational' decision making tools!

the closing comes back to maybe the fundamental teaching of Gautama on his death bed to his companion Ananda. 'The important thing is to trust your self. Don't look to the sangha (the group) and don't look to the dharma (the teachings). trust yourself.' lol! double that to trusting angels and spirits who have agendas we are unlikely to discern.

and thank you jasun and thomas: your talk has a nice synchronicity with my own current look at the superstition of reason as ... what? psyop, delusion, or a version of woke. to be published this week, if all goes well.

gracias.

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